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87vorteccamaro 87vorteccamaro
New User | Posts: 41 | Joined: 03/13
Posted: 04/01/13
07:06 AM

Hey guys just curious if any of u have deleted power steering from your cars?

I have removed it on all my previous cars with no problems but they were smaller and much lighter 4cyl cars.

I'm aware that stearing at low speeds is obviously going to be a bit tougher but is it a complete *** to the point I'll regret removing it?

I am considering this because I am trying to make my bay as clean and minimal as possible. That and I know its not noticeable, but I don't need another pully robbing my ponies.

Car is a 87 camaro with vortec 350
Thoughts or opinions?  

87vorteccamaro 87vorteccamaro
New User | Posts: 41 | Joined: 03/13
Posted: 04/01/13
08:35 AM

Lol steering*  

68scott385 68scott385
Guru | Posts: 1990 | Joined: 10/09
Posted: 04/01/13
08:43 AM

While it is possible, you will likely regret it. Parking lots are the big biotch, driving down the street won't feel much different but trying to park in cramped quarters will give you forearms like Popeye.

DO NOT plug the hydraulic ports on the steering box! They have to be able to pass fluid, make a line that connects the two ports so that fluid passes freely as needed. Keep all the hardware you remove in case you decide to put it back on.

Or replace the steering box with a manual unit, that way you don't have to worry about the hydraulic ports on the steering box.  
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redneckjoe69 redneckjoe69
Addict | Posts: 2337 | Joined: 03/10
Posted: 04/01/13
11:59 AM

heres a link for using an s-10 manual box on a 3rd gen.   cool site too!
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/529022-manual-steering-box.html  

87vorteccamaro 87vorteccamaro
New User | Posts: 41 | Joined: 03/13
Posted: 04/01/13
01:52 PM

Perfect! Thank you very much Joe.  

pepsi1 pepsi1
Guru | Posts: 1718 | Joined: 09/11
Posted: 04/01/13
04:03 PM

Icon Quote87vorteccamaro:
Hey guys just curious if any of u have deleted power steering from your cars?

I have removed it on all my previous cars with no problems but they were smaller and much lighter 4cyl cars.

I'm aware that stearing at low speeds is obviously going to be a bit tougher but is it a complete *** to the point I'll regret removing it?

I am considering this because I am trying to make my bay as clean and minimal as possible. That and I know its not noticeable, but I don't need another pully robbing my ponies.

Car is a 87 camaro with vortec 350
Thoughts or opinions?


Redneckjoe's got a good idea on the thread. I just wrote a problem I ran into along time ago....

Is there a special reason you want to remove the power steering. It sure doesn't take much off in the weight department...

With the newer Rack and Pinions need a supply of presure both ways. (Pulling and Pushing) or it will be as you say a truck with no power steering.

I remember back maybe 18 years ago I ran into a strange thing. If it wasn't my friends father's Volvo or Mercedies it had an Electric power steering pump. The pump was NO Bigger then our belt driven P/S pump. It worked well. The bearings made a racket when they wore out.

I was just thinking if there is away to hook an electric hydraulic pump up.

Bob  

87vorteccamaro 87vorteccamaro
New User | Posts: 41 | Joined: 03/13
Posted: 04/02/13
04:15 AM

Removing the power steering is purely a look thing for me. I like nothing more than a clean uncrowded engine bay. If I had my way I'd remove and/or hide everything but the engine

Probably gonna go with the s10 box as redneckjoe suggested.  

waynep712222 waynep712222
Enthusiast | Posts: 251 | Joined: 03/13
Posted: 04/02/13
07:02 AM

one thing while you are in there swapping the steering box...

on third gen F bodies..

check the engine side of the  frame rail where the steering box mounts... for fatigue cracks...

make sure that the triangular brackets that have a pair of self tapping bolts into the crossmember and a single bolt into the bottom of the frame rail are still tightly attached...


there is also a  brace available in the after market...    bolts on under the sway bar frame mounts... has a tube to connect them... links the frame horns together.. really stiffens up the steering response.. counters the torque created by the push on the center drag link attempting to turn the wheels...

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edit... i could found a gmpart number..

14079634 BAR,LWR TIE STRUCTURE(FRT STABILIZE) fits 82 to 91.

item 52.

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87vorteccamaro 87vorteccamaro
New User | Posts: 41 | Joined: 03/13
Posted: 04/02/13
07:13 AM

Where can I get it?  

68scott385 68scott385
Guru | Posts: 1990 | Joined: 10/09
Posted: 04/02/13
07:33 AM

http://www.umiperformance.com/catalog/  
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68scott385 68scott385
Guru | Posts: 1990 | Joined: 10/09
Posted: 04/02/13
07:48 AM

http://stores.ebay.com/Matts-Classic-Bowties-Restoration

Here's a store on eBay that sells UMI parts too if you can't get their website to open.  
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redneckjoe69 redneckjoe69
Addict | Posts: 2337 | Joined: 03/10
Posted: 04/02/13
08:29 AM

Wayne brings up a good point.   that brace is often refered to as a "wonder bar."   some 3rd gens came with a factory bar, and others didnt.   my 87 iroc has a factory one.   might be worth looking before buying one.   lots of companys sell them.   heres another.
http://www.bmrsuspension.com/?page=products&vehicleid=5&maincatid=60&catid=174

 and some info on the wonder bar.
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/465817-wonder-bar.html