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1964 327 chevy engine rebuild tips

 
jlosnovass jlosnovass
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 01/13
Posted: 01/20/13
09:34 PM

rebuilding a 327 small block flat top pistons 40 over got original 462 hump heads also have a set of 461 x humps that have been ported polished and have the 202/160 valve set up instead o the 194 set up dont know much abt cam got some numbers but i think its stock block numbers and pad show hipo small block 365 hp gunna try the 461 x heads with the 650 cfm edelbrock any tips appreciated thnks  

pepsi1 pepsi1
Guru | Posts: 1718 | Joined: 09/11
Posted: 01/21/13
03:49 PM

welcome to CHP

  After reading your post I have a problem as to why you wrote in. You have the answers you want so why are you asking them of us. You contradict what you said in one sentence. Confused

  The fully ported 461X castings need a Big Cam. The 462 Castings if they are virgins I would use with the 650 Holley.
  The HiPo 365/327 was a fuel injected Corvette engine. It could have had either of the 2 heads on them. With 1.94"/1.50" valves. The flat top pistons would have been 4 eyebrows or 2 eyebrows the difference being the compression ratio.

If you want help tell:

1.Whats the engine going in

2.What rear gar ratio

3.Automatic or manual trans

4.Street or strip or both

5.Cam you don't know

Bob  

L79lover L79lover
New User | Posts: 17 | Joined: 04/12
Posted: 01/28/13
09:40 PM

I usually just lurk and try to learn stuff but I had a new 365hp/327 in 1964 (I put in my '56 Chevy) and it had:
1)Holley carb with an aliminum intake manifold.
2)Camel hump heads w/2.02" intake,1.64" exhaust, 64cc combustion chambers and the combustion chamber was relieved around the intake valve (at the factory).
3) 11:1 forged pistons with raised domes (not flat top).
4)Forged crank.
5)Pink rods.
6)"30-30" solid lifter cam.
The fuel injection version of this same engine was rated at 375hp.  

pepsi1 pepsi1
Guru | Posts: 1718 | Joined: 09/11
Posted: 01/29/13
03:26 AM

1.Let us know exactly what you have, and what you are looking for.

2.Pink rods Don't get fooled they may still be around. But what shape are they in?
The (X) and( O) castings are strong. Or the aftermarket is Flooded with stronger rods.

3.The '62 through '67 small journal rods (2.00") rods have 11/32 rod bolts also used a oil weep hole at the parting line (you can't miss it) they also used a pressed on piston pin. In 1968 and 1969 the 327 engines used a better rod and larger journal pin. (2.10) and a 3/8" rod bolt. The beam section is a little woder and stronger, and NO OIL WEEP HOLE at the parting line. The center to center length is (5.7")
  I have more info on rods if you need the.

4.The 327 Forged Crank is very hard to find. The 307 cast cranks are around. There is a different type crank for the 327 and 350 arm. (I hope other guys read this) On a throw of a 307 Large Jounal Crank they have a the part number. If there is a (NF) in that number that means the crank is a "Nodular Forged" Crank. If you really know what your looking for.
  1.They look different in color after cleaning.
  2.If you can pick it up and hold it by its nose, (TAP THE LAST THROW LIGHTLY)
  with  a wrench or a small ball peen.
  3.It will actually have a higher pitched sound to it over any cast crank!
  The cast crank will have a thud sound to it...Remember the (NF) on a throw  

redneckjoe69 redneckjoe69
Addict | Posts: 2337 | Joined: 03/10
Posted: 01/29/13
06:06 AM

Icon QuoteL79lover:
I usually just lurk and try to learn stuff but I had a new 365hp/327 in 1964 (I put in my '56 Chevy) and it had:
1)Holley carb with an aliminum intake manifold.
2)Camel hump heads w/2.02" intake,1.64" exhaust, 64cc combustion chambers and the combustion chamber was relieved around the intake valve (at the factory).
3) 11:1 forged pistons with raised domes (not flat top).
4)Forged crank.
5)Pink rods.
6)"30-30" solid lifter cam.
The fuel injection version of this same engine was rated at 375hp.


musta been the cats meow back in 64? Cool    do you remember how much that motor cost you back then?   just curious.
 
    glad to hear your not lurking anymore.   we need more members.  

68scott385 68scott385
Guru | Posts: 1990 | Joined: 10/09
Posted: 01/29/13
11:14 AM

Icon QuoteL79lover:
I usually just lurk and try to learn stuff but I had a new 365hp/327 in 1964 (I put in my '56 Chevy) and it had:
1)Holley carb with an aliminum intake manifold.
2)Camel hump heads w/2.02" intake,1.64" exhaust, 64cc combustion chambers and the combustion chamber was relieved around the intake valve (at the factory).
3) 11:1 forged pistons with raised domes (not flat top).
4)Forged crank.
5)Pink rods.
6)"30-30" solid lifter cam.
The fuel injection version of this same engine was rated at 375hp.


Icon Quoteredneckjoe69:
musta been the cats meow back in 64? Cool    do you remember how much that motor cost you back then?   just curious.
 
    glad to hear your not lurking anymore.   we need more members.


+1

I second that motion.

No one will eat your lunch for giving input or sharing experiences.  
68scott385 68scott385 68scott385

L79lover L79lover
New User | Posts: 17 | Joined: 04/12
Posted: 01/29/13
12:52 PM

Redneckjoe69,
I don't remember the exact prices (it was nearly 50 years ago). I had a friend that worked in the parts dept. at the local Chevy dealer so I got all my Chevy parts wholesale. I think the short block was $240 and the complete heads were $140. I didn't buy the carb and intake because I already had a good 2-4 barrel setup. I was very happy with the way it ran. I left the engine stock except I had a machinist friend do a little pocket porting, 3 angle valve job and port matching for me. I wish I'd put a hotter cam in it but the "30-30" cam pulled pretty good. My '56 Chevy had a 3sp trans with a Hurst shifter, 4.56 diff gears and headers with a collector box which was popular back then. I have no idea what it ran in the 1/4 mile because our local backwoods dragstrip (Oak Hill) didn't have any timing equipment or speed traps. I didn't ever run there because I would be put in their "Gas" class (multiple carbs). I did a few grudge races after the regular races were over. One time I got challenged by a guy that had a '56 Ford with a 406ci/406hp engine and another guy with a Dodge with a 440 six pac. I beat both of them by about 6 car lengths so I guess my old '56 Chevy ran pretty good. I also got a kick out of outrunning the rich UT kids with their fuel injected Corvettes that their parents had bought them. I was too poor to do any serious drag racing and this was the car I drove to work everyday.  

pepsi1 pepsi1
Guru | Posts: 1718 | Joined: 09/11
Posted: 01/29/13
05:30 PM

I remember in 1969 My brother had a 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 XL. It was a 425/427 side oiler. He wanted to put Crane fireball heads on it. The Fireballs were the hot OTC heads. Well he said I want to go through it. I said why not. I had a friend (Mike) that worked in the parts department.
  My brother wanted to replace the Cam and the Lifters. After all the engine had 32,000 Miles on it.... Mike sets me up with all the parts. The Replacment cam and lifters for the 427. Cam was $39.00 Solid Lifters $1.20ea. for $58.20 he had the setup. The spare Detroit locker and gears was expensive. $192.00 we paid $153.60. 4:11 gears were $60.95 we paid $48.80 rear gears.. Things were expensive then too. You needed to have someone on the inside. If they special ordered a part, you could make payments on it til you paid for it.
  Today its No Ticky ho Shirty...Ford always had mid year and break off points for production. Engineering dates. That never changed....

  When you compare salaries then and now they maybe close. Back then we didn't have Jegs or a Summit, and have it the next day. Its great today.

Bob `  

redneckjoe69 redneckjoe69
Addict | Posts: 2337 | Joined: 03/10
Posted: 01/30/13
08:04 AM

it must have been fun growing up in the golden age of muscle cars? Cool

  the style and prices of todays "muscle cars," doesnt thrill me.