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West Coast Outlaw 8.5 Rules

 
tuffnuff tuffnuff
Moderator | Posts: 7828 | Joined: 12/09
Posted: 01/15/13
09:45 AM

West Coast Hot Rod Association *Tentative*2013 Rules 12-19-12

All rules enforced at the discretion of the race director.

OUTLAW 8.5

(OUT)




Entry Fee................. $

WINNER................... $

R/U.......................... $

SEMI ....................... $


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Each 2013 event Class Winner and R/U will be laddered and run against each other                    during Qual at 2013 WCHRA Finals for 2013 Class Championship! Winner and R/U                              of WCHRA Finals will be first two spots on the Ladder for 2014 Championship!!!

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CLASS DESCRIPTION:

OUTLAW 8.5 is a heads-up class for any Rear Wheel Driven “Doorslammer”

type of vehicle. The class is based around a small 26 X 8.5 "non W" Slick or

235 Drag Radial,making OUTLAW 8.5, the Ultimate Driver/Tuner Class with

the intention of Limited tire size and weight requirements being the ultimate

limiting factors.

Power adders are allowed, including the use of Nitrous Oxide, Turbocharged,

Centrifugal and/or Roots Style Supercharged Combo's.


**Nitrous and Boost Controllers are permitted!**


*OUTLAW 8.5 will be run in the 1/8th Mile format*



CLASS GUIDELINES:


BODY:

The car must retain its original appearance and profiles. Aftermarket fiberglass

replacement panels (MUST BE STOCK APPEARING!) are limited to; hood, hood

scoop, fenders,doors, deck lids and bumpers.One piece front-ends are allowed

(Hood must be separate) and must retain factory grill,head lights, and marker

lights.The driver and passenger doors must open from inside and outside.

Lexan Windows are Permitted but must be Stock Appearing! .

Maximum allowed Front overhang is 45" Max measured from Front axle

centerline to forward most part of vehicle.


FIREWALL:

Must retain factory unaltered firewall, in factory location.

A cosmetic overlay is permitted.


HOOD / SCOOPS:

Forward facing hood scoops,within reason!, are allowed.

Plexiglass Scoops that bolt on top of Carb/Carbs,may also be used with Cowl

Induction hoods up to 6" tall.(Call if you have any questions!)

Fiberglass replacement hoods with "Factory Style" scoop(Cowl-Induction,

Thunderbolt, Six-Pack,Hemi, etc...) are preferred. No Grossly oversized

"Cowl Hoods" allowed.

*Air Cleaner protruding through Flat or short Cowl hood o.k.,no more than 4"*

*Discretion of race director*


INTERIOR:

Door panels, headliner(Prefered), carpet, dashboard are required. Back seat

may be deleted, but must have carpet covering the bare floor.


SEATS:

Two front bucket seats prefered, or one bench seat with upholstery required.

Seats must remain in the stock location.


BRACKET RACING AIDS:

The use of "Reaction Time Devices" Optical Sensors, Delay Boxes, etc,

is prohibited!


BRAKES:

All vehicles must have front and rear brakes.


CHASSIS / SUSPENSION:


FRONT SUSPENSION:

Suspension components must all remain in stock locations.Direct bolt-on

A-arms are permitted. Tubular K-members that are a direct bolt on are

permitted. Sway bars may be removed.Aftermarket Bolt-on Front End kits

that use a strut to replace an a-arm type suspension for early Nova/Chevy II`s /

Mustangs,etc..are permitted (Chris Alston, Smith Racecraft, Fat Man,Heidts,

Scotts Hot Rods, T.C.I., etc..)


K-MEMBER:

Aftermarket factory-replacement-type K-member permitted, but must attach

to the chassis using only the original factory OEM-type mounting bolts.


REAR SUSPENSION:

Bolt on traction devices are permitted. Leaf springs may be relocated "inboard"

for tire clearance purposes,Mini tubs are permitted.

No full size wheel tubs will be allowed.

Ladder Bar type Suspension OK....(Must retain Stock Floor!)

**Aftermarket “Bolt In” 4- Links Permitted*(Heidts,T.C.I.,Alston,etc..)                                      ^^^^^^^(Must have Stock Floor and Framerail!!!)^^^^^^^^^^^


FRAME & CHASSIS:

Stock frame rails must be retained in stock locations front and rear on Stock

Suspension Vehicles and Notching of rear frame rails for tire clearance is OK.

Rear Frame can be Notched,Sectioned or Replaced on Ladder Bar entries,but,

the Stock Floor must be retained(No Back-Half Chassis)

Sub frame connectors are permitted.


DRIVE TRAIN:


AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS:

Any OEM automatic transmission permitted. Aftermarket torque converter,

shift kit, valve body,shifter, and pan cooler are permitted. Trans brakes O.K.


MANUAL TRANSMISSION:

Manual transmissions are allowed.

Clutch/Automatics or planetary transmissions are not allowed.

All shifts must be made manually without the aid of electric,

hydraulic or pneumatic devices.


ENGINE:

Cross-Breeding is O.K.


ENGINE BLOCK:

Aftermarket Cast Iron & Aluminum blocks are allowed.


ENGINE MOUNT LOCATION:

Engine must remain in stock location. Engine may not touch the factory

unaltered firewall. **Motor plates are permitted**


CARBURETOR / THROTTLE BODY:

Any single or dual carburetor or throttle body set-up is allowed


NITROUS OXIDE:

All nitrous systems are allowed. Nitrous oxide commercially available,

thermostatically controlled blanket-type warmer accepted. Any other external

heating of bottles prohibited.The use of any agents other than nitrous oxide as

part of, or mixed with, this pressurized fuel system is prohibited. If an entry is

presented to tech as a non-nitrous weight break, all nitrous oxide lines,fittings,

solenoids, and bottles must be removed before car is allowed to pass tech.


SUPERCHARGER / TURBOCHARGER:

Roots Blowers are Legal,but,the highest point of Hat/Scoop cannot exceed

8" above stock Hood. **Screw Superchargers are not allowed**


Centrifugal Superchargers and/or Turbochargers are Permitted

All air entering the Supercharger or turbocharger must pass through the

inlet. Injection of any liquid, gas or any other substance into the inlet or

exhaust housing is prohibited(Excluding certain 4 & 6 Cyl Combos).

**Inlet Reducers may be used on Turbochargers**

Turbocharger size will be determined by measuring the smallest point

of the Inlet or Reducer.


EXHAUST:

Production type mufflers are required. No collector inserts permitted.

Modification or removal of muffler internals is prohibited (no gutting).

Side exit permitted,no bullhorn style exhaust! Exhaust may not

extend more than 3" beyond the body at exit point and cannot interfere

with the staging beams!


FUEL / FUEL SYSTEMS:

Gasoline/e-85 or Alcohol


ONBOARD DIAGNOSTICS / DATA RECORDERS:

Onboard diagnostic computers and recorders are permitted. Memory and

playback tachometers are allowed.


STEERING:

Rack and Pinion allowed on all vehicles.


STREET LEGAL REQUIREMENTS:

All cars are required to have working headlights and tail lights.

Brake lights & turn signals are (Prefered).


TIRES:

Front tires must have a minimum tread width of 4.5 inches. Front tires do not

have to be DOT approved.


Rear Tires:

*M/T,M&H,Goodyear,Etc… 26 x 8.5 Slick(Non W) or 235 Drag Radial*

Hoosier 26 x 8.5 Slick allowed


WHEEL BASE:

Must retain stock wheel base with a maximum variation right to left and front

to back of one inch.


WHEELIE BARS:

Wheelie bars are strictly prohibited.


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WEIGHT GUIDE:

Base Weight (All weights are race-ready, car with driver)



4 Cyl (Air Cooled) Boosted/N2o/Innercooled....................... 1750 lbs

4 Cyl (Inline) Boosted/N2o/Innercooled.............................. 2050 lbs

6 Cyl Single Turbo/S/C.(88mm/F1R/Xi-or Equiv)............... 2850 lbs

6 Cyl Twin Turbos/S/C.(76mm/F1A/YSI-or Equiv)............. 2950 lbs


6 Cyl (Inline)Single Turbo/SC..Boosted/N2o/Innercooled...... 3150 lbs

6 Cyl (Inline)Twin Turbo/SC..Boosted/N2o/Innercooled........ 3250 lbs

Small Block N/A.(Includes OEM B.O.P.)................................ 2500 lbs

Small Block N2o.(Includes OEM B.O.P.)................................ 2900 lbs

Small Block Roots.(Max 10-71).......................................... 3250 lbs

Small Block Turbo/S/C.(88mm/F1R/Xi-or Equiv)................ 3300 lbs

Small Block Twin Turbo./S/C.(76mm/F1A/YSI-or Equiv).... 3350 lbs

Big Block N/A .................................................................... 2900 lbs

Big Block N2o .................................................................... 3300 lbs

Big Block Turbo & S/C.(88mm/F1R/Xi or Equiv).................. 3400 lbs

******************No Big Block Twins! ****************


WEIGHT ADDS:


Ladder Bar and/or “Bolt In” 4-Links.(T.C.I.,Heidts,Alston,etc).. +  50 lbs

Small Blocks not using "True Wedge" or any "In-line Valve" Heads/
(Edelbrock/Yates HighPort part #'s 6049SC1 & 6049C3H)
or similar/GM Symmetrical/Splayed Valve................................. + 50 lbs

Big Blocks using Big Chief, Big Duke, Pontiac, Olds, Ford C & E
Profiler Cylinder Head or any similar Symmetrical/ Non-Conventional
Cylinder Heads......................................................................... + 50 lbs

Big Block & Small Block "Non O.E.M." Large Bore Space combos                                            (IE..SBC 4.5 ... BBC 5.0+)....................................................... +100 lbs

Single Turbo combo using larger than (88mm)...................... +100 lbs

Single S/C larger than 10-71/F1R/Xi(Or Equiv)...................... +100 lbs

All Twin Turbos or S/C larger than 76mm/F1A/YSI(Or Equiv). +100 lbs


DEDUCTS:


M/T,M&H,Goodyear,etc... 26 X 8.5-15(Non Hoosier) Slick                                                                or any 235/60-15 Drag Radial.................................................... -  50 lbs

N2o& N/A...Small Block Ford,Chevy & Mopar W/Conv Head,

Factory..*20,*23,*18 Valve Angle and port location................... -  50 lbs

Single Stage Plate system with 4150 Carb............................. -  50 lbs

Single 4 Barrel *Blo-Thru Carbs* .............................................. -  50 lbs

Any Pre-1979 vehicles and/or Mid/Full Size Car/Truck................ -  50 lbs

Non-Innercooled Boosted Combos(Gas Only)......................... -100 lbs

Small Blocks 360 *** or less................................................... -100 lbs

Mod Motor Combos.................................................................. -150 lbs

6 Cylinder N2o or N/A Combos............................................... -150 lbs

^^^^^^Off N2o or N/A Small Block Weight^^^^^^^^

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WCHRA REQUIRED DECALS:


CLASS SPONSOR DECAL:

Sponsor decal must be installed on base of windshield on the passenger side.

(Bottom left hand side when looking at front of vehicle windshield)


SERIES SPONSOR:

Sponsor decal must be installed on base of windshield on the driver’s side.

(Bottom right hand side when looking at front of vehicle windshield)


EVENT SPONSOR DECAL:

Sponsor decal must be installed on base of windshield on the drivers side.

(Bottom right hand side when looking at front of vehicle windshield)

Decals will be available during registration at the WCHRA Event Trailer


CONTINGENCY DECALS:

All contingency decals may appear anywhere on the windows in a clear and

organized fashion.Contingency decals may not be overlapped or modified.

Most decals are available at the WCHRA Event Trailer, but in the event the

WCHRA does not have the decals in stock, it is the racer's responsibility to

obtain the proper decals to be eligible for Contingency payout.


WCHRA Point System:

We will be calculating points at each event, and will crown a champion at the

conclusion of the season.


RACE DAY POLICIES:


SCALES:


After each qualifying and elimination pass, all cars must stop and weigh at

the track scales. If you lose in eliminations and your opponent fails to make

weight, you will be reinstated into the eliminations only if you made minimum

weight requirements. If both cars failed to make minimum weight, both cars

will be disqualified. It is the driver's responsibility to verify with each track

scale, the weight of his/her car prior to each race day.

There will be a 5lb error factor allowed.


TOW BACK & TOW VEHICLES

Permitted


BYE-RUNS:

Vehicles must take the tree, and run down the 1/8 mile.

* Unless told otherwise by Race Director*


All drivers and vehicles must meet current NHRA and track requirements.


*********Call if you have any questions: 661-816-9838 Tim*********  
When The Flag Drops.,.

tuffnuff

The Bull ***t Stops.,.
tuffnuff

P. Engineer, Engine Builder

Dave632 Dave632
Addict | Posts: 2225 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 01/15/13
10:09 AM

Interesting class Tuff.
I would see traction as the big limiting factor here.  
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76Skylark 76Skylark
Guru | Posts: 854 | Joined: 12/11
Posted: 01/15/13
12:14 PM

Icon QuoteDave632:
Interesting class Tuff.
I would see traction as the big limiting factor here.


they are fast though  last year Champ was in the 5.20's, I have Always been a lighter is faster but maybe not.  

Dave632 Dave632
Addict | Posts: 2225 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 01/15/13
03:39 PM

Lighter is surely faster given the same power.
Traction can also be a big factor in classes like this.
I ran on some pretty poor tracks where traction with
tires twice that size was tricky.  
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76Skylark 76Skylark
Guru | Posts: 854 | Joined: 12/11
Posted: 01/15/13
04:48 PM

I called the promoter Tim, to ask some of the racers to chime in on this thread. he Say's Henry dlS is a fan and was at their Banquet recently.also Tim will be coming to South Georgia Motor sports Park for a show in Feb.22-23-24? he will be coming with DJ Reid who runs the class in a 68 Camaro and maybe others so that is about 4 hrs. away and I am going for sure to check them out.I am also sure there will be a full field of cars from the south east and maybe more.I'm getting excited!   the races in Qatar should be over by then and the top 10.5 outlaw and Pro-Mod guy's will too! but that may also be a conflicting Date as I am not sure when they Started over there but they are doing 5 Races in 6 weeks  

DamonR DamonR
Moderator | Posts: 28 | Joined: 08/11
Posted: 01/15/13
04:50 PM

If you guys have any questions about this class, I race my car in this class.
been 5.79@121 with a 1.29  60ft. It is a great class.
Skylark, I am qwiknotch on yellowbullet.  

76Skylark 76Skylark
Guru | Posts: 854 | Joined: 12/11
Posted: 01/15/13
05:15 PM

That is Great and thanks, I'm really Stoked and want to think Hard about Building one, what combo do you use Big block or Small,Fox or Gm, Front and rear susp. not asking for Secrets but in General what is fast. I like to bounce around Ideas.  

DamonR DamonR
Moderator | Posts: 28 | Joined: 08/11
Posted: 01/17/13
09:49 AM

That explains it. I made a post and it obviously didn't go through.(The joys of posting from a phone. This past season, I used a stock block, hydraulic roller 358" sbc in a *gasp* Mustang. plate unit with a 4 speed Jerico.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR97iclzNcw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

This season, same car, but it has a glide and the engine is much bigger with a good block and a fogger.  

Dave632 Dave632
Addict | Posts: 2225 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 01/17/13
01:35 PM

Car runs nice. Pretty good bite for such little tires.
Nice to see some race action on this site. I ran race glides in
my last several cars and had good luck with them.
Good luck in the next season.  
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76Skylark 76Skylark
Guru | Posts: 854 | Joined: 12/11
Posted: 01/17/13
05:08 PM

Dave, Take this thread and Run with it. If you want to Look over at Yellow bullet In the Forums.. NOT Trash or be Trashed..  Drag racing... I started a thread asking about these cars from all around the U. S. and Have gotten some Good people Responding. look over there and If a question Comes to mind Ask away or I will if you don't want to register, I am also attempting to have them Check in over here. Things will be Different this Time I promise..... John  

tuffnuff tuffnuff
Moderator | Posts: 7828 | Joined: 12/09
Posted: 01/18/13
09:57 AM

Let's hope things will be different this time.,. the last time was a total disaster, but we survived.

Smile  
When The Flag Drops.,.

tuffnuff

The Bull ***t Stops.,.
tuffnuff

P. Engineer, Engine Builder

dond1965 dond1965
Enthusiast | Posts: 294 | Joined: 12/13
Posted: 12/04/13
10:01 PM

i didnt see ANYTHING about SAFETY equipment! a funny thing,it says cross breeding is permitted, so that makes me think ,can use OTHER manufacturer engine in the chassis, BUT says engine must be in stock location,may use motor plates, LOL!!!! also it doesnt mention if the car is weighed with or without the driver. very interesting class though!  

dond1965 dond1965
Enthusiast | Posts: 294 | Joined: 12/13
Posted: 12/04/13
10:24 PM

it got me thinkin,..hmmm... pinto hatchback, alloy block 4.155 inch bore sb chevy, 3.25 stroke, [for 353 cubes] 6 inch rods, 12 to one pistons, dart pro 1, 230cc port,23 degree heads, with 2.08 x 1.60 inch valves, p.v.s. 1.5 shaft rockers, holley pro dominator tunnel ram with [2] 1,000 cfm 4150 methanol carbs. a gear driven COMP solid roller #12-772-8[10], 248-254 degrees at 50, 0.576-0.582 gross lift, 110 LSA. a tci [6x] six speed auto trans, a dana 60. mini tubbed, inboard rear leafs with cal trac bars. yeah i know its off but the camquest6 dyno simulator says it makes 759 hp @7,500 rpm, and 594 LBS FT @5,500 rpm with big tube headers and mufflers, hahaha !!! no wheelie bars? boo hoo wawawa!!! p.s. naturally aspirated small block runs at 2,500 LBS., under 360 cubes deduct 100 LBS. oem valve angle and port location, deduct 50 LBS.  ...so thats pro stock like 2,350 LBS.!!!!... im thinkin a couple predator carbs will be even better.  

dond1965 dond1965
Enthusiast | Posts: 294 | Joined: 12/13
Posted: 12/04/13
10:37 PM

p.s   .... team AFROMARO has an online blog that asks if youd like to see what a 1.17 second 60 foot looks like on 8.5 tires using leaf springs? that would be in a 67-68 camaro, NOT a stubby lil pinto!!! kool! says they are using a big stuff 3 efi system, and ati centrifical blower, and the 1.17 60 foot was while running a 4.79 @ 150 in the 1/8, impressive !!! kudos!  

dond1965 dond1965
Enthusiast | Posts: 294 | Joined: 12/13
Posted: 12/08/13
03:02 PM

a couple more thoughts.... rear engine v.w. platform is allowed, but can NOT USE WHEELIE BARS! it can not be competitive with out wheelie bars PERIOD.!! the other thing is nitrogen pusher systems are NOT allowed on N20 set ups, thus taking away the ability for those combos to be repeatable/consistent, thus in effect making them uncompetitive also!! the world has gone TURBO-CRAZY!!!  

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