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kmart0319 kmart0319
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 11/09
Posted: 11/07/09
07:17 AM

I have a green 454 block that I want to stroke into a 496. Normally, I would take it to a NAPA shop but this time I took the block to a Performance machine shop. They are telling me that they can't bore it unless I have the whole rotating assembly because the pistons may not each match to the 4.310 bore. I have always thought that any size difference in pistons would be minimal and this is why you size and gap rings. Should I wait to get the rotating assembly or call the BS flag and have them torque plate hone each bore to 4.310?  

 
jondeyoung jondeyoung
User | Posts: 116 | Joined: 10/09
Posted: 11/07/09
07:40 AM

What do you mean by performance machine shop? Is build performance engines the only thing they do?  

 
kmart0319 kmart0319
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 11/09
Posted: 11/07/09
07:49 AM

Yea, They do racing engines and balance/blueprinting  

 
jondeyoung jondeyoung
User | Posts: 116 | Joined: 10/09
Posted: 11/07/09
07:52 AM

I'd listen to them personally. They are trying to their job and they know what they are doing. It will cost but you'll have one helluva motor.  

 
68scott385 68scott385
User | Posts: 66 | Joined: 10/09
Posted: 11/07/09
01:31 PM

just because a piston is .030 over doesn't mean that the bore will actually be .030 as well

the different materials used for pistons require a different spacing between the piston and the bore...which means that yes, they do need the pistons to finalize the bore diameter

and the rest of the rotating assembly for mock-up to ensure that there is no clearance issues between the rod ends and the pan rails, pistons and the crank counter-weights, crank counter-weights/rod ends and the bottom of the cylinder bores  

 
gettnlarge01 gettnlarge01
Enthusiast | Posts: 648 | Joined: 09/09
Posted: 11/07/09
02:35 PM

Give them what they ask for. To do a quality job its all needed.  

 
Pontiacman2 Pontiacman2
Guru | Posts: 843 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 11/07/09
02:47 PM

+1  
Horsepower sells Engines and torque wins races.

 
p2-72chevelle383 p2-72chevelle383
Enthusiast | Posts: 301 | Joined: 08/09
Posted: 11/08/09
11:04 AM

+2  

 
gettnlarge01 gettnlarge01
Enthusiast | Posts: 648 | Joined: 09/09
Posted: 11/08/09
01:19 PM

+3  

 
Pontiacman2 Pontiacman2
Guru | Posts: 843 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 11/08/09
02:11 PM

+4    
Horsepower sells Engines and torque wins races.

 
georgiaboyzr2 georgiaboyzr2
New User | Posts: 39 | Joined: 05/09
Posted: 11/08/09
07:33 PM

i used keith black .030 pistons for my 400sbc, machine shop told me the same thing... good thing i listened to them becuase when i got home and started file fitting my rings, all the bores were off slightly  

 
gettnlarge01 gettnlarge01
Enthusiast | Posts: 648 | Joined: 09/09
Posted: 11/09/09
03:10 AM

Theres a slight difference in piston size and thats why each cylinder has a piston fitted for it. Just make sure the machineshop has marked each piston for the cylinder it was honed for.  

 

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