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ram09
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Posted: 03/10/04 09:29 PM
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Build the Chevelle already. It is high time Chevy got back in the rear wheel drive performance market. Dont get me wrong the Corvette is an awesome peice of machinery. But at 50 plus thousand dollars, there is no way a blue collar guy like me could afford it. That is what the chevelle is all about. A working mans muscle car. If Chevy builds it I will buy one. Dont get me wrong it needs a little cosmetic work but the basis of it is what i like.
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Posted: 03/10/04 09:55 PM
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ok, i have read all of the posts written so far and i agree and disagree with some of these people. first off, i DO own a '69 chevelle. its not an SS or anything spectacular, but its mine. Its a work in progress and ive had it for almost 4 years. ive always wondered what a new version of my car would be like and i was thrilled to hear of a concept version. After seeing the pics and reading about it i dont know that i am as excited about it. i do want something new from chevy that is affordable for a 22 year old like myself and will absolutely blow the doors off of everything else out there. However on the other hand, nothing new will ever compare to the real thing and i dont know if i want to see a finished remake of the car. in the almost 4 years i have had my chevelle, i couldnt tell you how many people have pulled up next to me just to tell me how much they like my car and remember when they had one. Or at saturday night cruise ins talkin to people who used to have one just like it or talkin to other owners even of other cars, not just chevelles. As one other person said, how would it make me feel to have a new "CHEVELLE SS" park next to me at a show or cruise in. i already dont like the fact that PT Cruisers have a local club and act like they are a great club. To me they are cars that people buy who dont want to put work and pride into something, they use their wallets. so i guess when it comes down to it, unless it is reasonably priced (under 30k for fully loaded all options) and looks like a real muscle car, its not worth producing or buying.
Thanks for your time.
tightchevelle69@comcast.net
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ckeen72
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Posted: 03/13/04 11:36 PM
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You said it MasterMonte! It's a grand idea to resurrect the fabled Chevelle! But this aint it! This thing is just a drab looking Impalibu, with an LS1 shoved in it! Just like the waste-of-space GTO aka the Grand Amprix! Are we just grasping for ideas or what? Look at what Ford is doing with the '05 Mustang! Now that's retro styling! These new versions of old Chevy musclecars have missed the mark, badly! Even if the styling marks have been missed, the price tags have been an insult! The muscle car was originally marketed to the 18-25 year old male customer, now anyone who is 18-25 cant even afford those cars! Hence, the demise of the camaro/firebird lines. These new clones (chevelle/GTO) are probably base out at $30K plus! I think the perfect muscle car has nothing special! Besides a big V-8, nice throaty sound, and descent wheels, and sells for under $20K. I worked at a chevy dealer for 3 years, we had such a beast. A 1997 Camaro, plain as hell, LT1 V8, 17" aluminum wheels, power nuthin, T-56 6 spd manual, and an AM/FM tape deck, and it stickered around the $18 range! If GM can do that now, I am sold!
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Posted: 03/14/04 08:53 AM
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i like the idea of you redoing the chevelle ss.iagree with mastermonte.if they are to do it make something special.not a glorified cav.do the retro.im a die hard chevy fan .i sold ford's for a while.i know one of the reasons,why they killed the camaro &firebird .while i was selling the fords i drove my 82 Z 28 &my 95 Z 28 to the dealership everyday.i would tell you the answer.but i let you figure it out .dont get me wrong i love my chevys. i also owned two chevelles 68 & 69 super sport.althought i would love to see chevy bring back the chevelleSS.please do it right .not a cheap rip off the GTO,GRAND PRIX platform.imust admit i like the looksof the new 05 mustang.now if chevy can do something like that on the chevelle and maybe the camaro.well one can only hope chevy will do the right thing.
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Liv2drive
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Posted: 03/16/04 08:45 PM
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So there I am walking through the store when from a distance I spot Aprils CHP on the rack with that Chevelle SS! on the cover. My jaw hits the floor as I'm frozen in my step, Can it be? Nah! Can't be! I did'nt think Chevy had anyone left working there that has motor oil running through their veins like us true enthusiast. I slapped the mag down on the counter along with my four bucks and ran out the store to my truck and started reading. I think I read the story three times before putting the mag down, I could'nt stop looking at the pictures. The 1970 Chevelle SS is my all time favorite musclecar. I've had many,but for one reason or another had to sell them. I would love to have another and what could be better than a new version of the greatest musclecar ever made. Sure would look good along side my original 1969 and 1996 SS Impala's. I hope they build it!
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72SS402
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Posted: 03/17/04 01:22 PM
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NOW HERE WE GO! Not exactly perfect but a hell of a lot better than that thing they showed us. go to this link and check out what one of the guys did in photoshop. chrome, SS badges, and a saaaawweeeeeett cowl induction hood.
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4041865&a=31123851&f=
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Ken
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Posted: 03/21/04 06:51 PM
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I have read up on the new '05 Chevelle concept and many of the comments other reads have posted. I love the concept of Chevy producing a new Chevelle line. I had a '65 years ago and loved the distinct lines. While the power in the LS6 would be perfect for a new Chevelle, I think the the body and interior could use a lot of help. I have been a chevy man since I was 4 so don't take this the wrong way, but chevy could take a hint from ford and use some of the lines from the classics. The new ford mustangs really catch the eye with thier independent style so it would only be fitting that the Chevelle do the same. As for the markings, how about some Chevelle emblems, numbers, or SS markings instead of the Corvette flags. It absolutely must be a car worthy of the Chevelle name, not another joke like the new Implala or Monte Carlo.
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sweet68RS
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Posted: 03/22/04 06:05 PM
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Hey man relax a little. Yes, the car isn't right yet but it could be. There where people saying the samething about your '72 when the body was changed from the '66-'67 style and YOU still love it right? Also just because they may build a new one don't do your '72 an injustice by selling it. I have a '68 Camaro RS straight out of San Diego and I wouldn't sell it no matter how bad a future Camaro could be.
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tfistola
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Posted: 04/01/04 09:31 AM
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alright i have a few coments to make regarding the gto and chevelle concept the gto is a great looking car and its fast but it should not be called a gto that abusing a name thta had a badass muscle car to back it up these new gto look nothing like the old one and they shouldn't because the gto was discontinued because emmsion will not allow a car with that much raw power they where put to rest and the name should stay there im not dissing the car itself i just dont think they should call it a gto and now for the chevelle i am a huge chevelle fan i may not own one yet but i have more knowledge of them them most who do i am currently lookin for a 70 ss 454 to restore i think that this new cocept is grooss it should never be built and i doubt seeing that chevy had nothing to do with it that they would never build it it might be fast it looks ok but it doesnt deserve the chevelle name it looks notjing close to the old chevelles and anyone who owns a older chevelle should be disgusted with themselves i they would ever own one how u could call this a chevell is beyond me a a new gto with a cowl and diffent lamps front ande back no thought went it this the chevelle was an awsome car that can never be reborn in its true fashion it a legend and remaking them will just hurt there image and ruin the chevelle name for ever if chevy was smart they will allow the chevelle name to lay in history and keeps its history the most powerful muscle car ever it had the largest engine available (in the 70s) and it was the best looking i think if the name of the chevelle ever appears on a new car i will turn away from chevy forever i will be to disgusted to ever own another chevy and right now that all i own and will ever own if things stay the way they are
leave the chevelle name alone it part of history now leave it there
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chevy266
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Posted: 04/07/04 10:31 PM
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First, I would like to say build it, they will come! To those people cutting down the new GTO, shame on you!!! I own one and it's one of the best cars I've owned. I previously owned a 2001 Camaro SS, and the GTO out performs, and rides better than the Camaro ever thought about. The design, I thought was non-inspiring, however that is to your advantage. No one suspects you until you lay the hammer down, you should see the surprised looks!!!! If you remember the original GTO was brought about by putting a big block engine into a plane jane Tempest - Lemans body. There was nothing exciting about the boxy design. It was a big surprise package. As far as performance, all you have to look at the tests for these cars made in the 60's to realize that these new models not only out perform them( in stock form), but get better gas mileage. Don't get me wrong, I love the 60's muscle cars, I was brought up driving during the mid-60's, and currently own a 1966 Chevy II 2dr sedan with a built 327, that flat out runs. I will say the GTO will give my 1966 sedan a run and my Chevy II weights almost 1000 pounds less. All I'm saying is that there were very few, if any production cars of the 60's that put up the performance numbers that these new ones are putting out. Of course there are always exceptions, but do your own research and look at rode tests for these cars of th 60's in Road and Track and other publications of that era, compare them to the numbers being put up by the new era of muscle cars. I was surprised!! Just enjoy whats coming down the rode, It beats what we had during the 70's and 80's. Who knows you might grow to like them, like I found out about the 2004 GTO.
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oldBogie
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Posted: 04/08/04 10:23 AM
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I just don't understand Chevy's problem with coming up with a modern Chevelle. You guys at GM used to be on the cutting edge, now the *** , Euros and even Ford have you playing follow-the-leader., What gives?
A 40,000 dollar GTO!!!!! Come on get real. Even at my somewhat advanced age which has lead to some economic success, I'm not dropping 40 grand for a factory imitation hot rod.
If you can't come up with a new platform and body to do the traditional Chevelle justice, then grab the smallest car you make that a 454 can be stuffed into, put it up for sale at 15 to 25 grand, and stand back. Forget the gotta put a Corvette engine in something, get something brutal out there, the old fashion way; "there ain't no substitute for cubic inches". So 454 standard and 502 the SS option.
What ever you do don't follow Ford's lead with the T-Bird revisted, how they could take such a great classic and screw it it up so badly is beyond me, guess that's why I ride a Chevy.
Bogie
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chevy266
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Posted: 04/08/04 07:21 PM
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In regards to the Mustang, I have read that the GT with only 300hp will run in the $26000.-$29000. range. I don't know about you but a GTO which I own with 350hp and an independent rear suspension instead of the straight axle rear in the Mustang makes up the difference in pricing. I paid right at $31000. for mine. I had a 2001 Camaro SS that I paid $22000. new, but in comparing it to the GTO, they are so different. The GTO rides and handles better than the Camaro ever thought about. In regards to straight line performance they are about the same giving the edge to the GTO. I grew up during the muscle car era, and you're right, they should offer these cars in what ever level you want to order them in. The 01 Camaro I owned was plain no power windows,locks,or seats, that is why the cost of $22000., however a loaded Camaro SS was priced at $32000. The GTO is loaded hence the price of $34000. I think the design of the Mustang is right on, but if you look at the GTO and Chevelle, these cars were not pony cars like the Mustang. A retro design for these cars would require a bigger platform than the Camaro or Mustang. I understand that Pontiac will put a ram-air hood on the 05 GTO which will help the looks. I think if GM offered the GTO in several levels of equipment, it would make this car more affordable, just like the 01 Camaro I ordered.
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Posted: 04/13/04 04:57 AM
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This is what needs to happen. The idea of the Chevelle is awsome. we need constructive comments on this if us chevy men want another street rod. Start in the front, the chevelle is does not slope down along the hood, stop woring about aerodynamics and put some shape to it. The front end never was smooth, put a front bumper on the thing and open up the grill. Moving back, classic muscle had chrome this has none. Put some chrome strips around the windshield, door window, and fender wells. The ass end of this project is the most important, thats what we want the fords and imports on the line to see. The rear window and trunk deck need to have a little angle in them where they come together, now it's a flat slope. The rear bumper needs something to stick out, and please don,t bring the pipes out through it, flat bottom with nice 3" round tips. I think your going with a 1970 look. It would be nice to see the taillights back in the bumper. I relize the interior is designed for convience and comfort so we'll let that alone. the power plant not bad at least it's not a V-6, BUT I know you guys at chevy can get at LEAST 450 HP from a 383. Even if it's an option, I'd get it, I know others would follow. Good on ya with the 6 Speed i like that. the rear end should be offered with solid rear axle for us who want to hook this *** up, and mabe a varity of gear ratios. Last would it really kill you to rap those BFG rubbers around some chrome. Personally some 17" Creggars would look great. Hey bring back some style and I would be proud to make it a new member of the family.
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Posted: 04/13/04 05:09 AM
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Not to bust your big cubic inches bubble, but any one who builds small-blocks knows you can get 500 horses from a 383 mouse that could smoke your 454 Rat out on the road and weigh a lot less.
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oldBogie
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Posted: 04/13/04 08:05 AM
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It's the torque baby, fire burning, melt 'em to the hubs torque. That's what made the Chevelle SS a winner stop light to stoplight.
If Chevy is going to build a muscle car that the average person can afford they need to get their head out the Rocket Science with things like LS1s buried under plastic covers and stuff some gut wrenching simple inexpensive technology under the hood; and that's big inches.
Now to keep up with federal CAFE standards I expect that they will have to fund an entirely new company so this monster doesn't destroy their corporate average fuel economy.
As for your 383 eating any 454 ever built, not likely. Performance is not just the engine, it's matching the engine to the chassis, weight and weight distribution with the proper gears for the engines power band. There's an old axium "there's no substitute for cubic inches". Well there is in the form of supercharging of some type, nitrous; but compared to the cubic inch route these forms are expensive, require special supporting systems, these things add to initial costs, maintenance costs and reduce reliability.
A simple but bigger engine keeps costs down from initial purchase through operation, till death do you part. Keeping costs down means the average kid can get into one of these and have some fun before they turn 40. That's what the original concept of Muscle cars was all about, it just had the factory do what the hot Rodders always did, stuff bigger engines into cars than what they came with, plain, direct, simple. No 4 wheel disks, no leather, no air, no TV, no GPS, no exotic suspension; just go.
Bogie
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