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Posted: 06/11/08 06:58 PM
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You might go to a we site called e85fuel.com - this is the National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition. They have a list of all e85 fueling stations in the U.S. They also have a list of all VIN numbers of all cars made that are e85 compatable. You can sign up for thier news letter that comes out about every month or so. Nice vette, I wish the new ZO6 was e85 compatible or had an option for e85 only - that would be a BOMB! 105 octane ethanol vette - Bad Ass! chris
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GibTG
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Posted: 06/11/08 07:48 PM
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Really, I want to know what kind of kickback you're getting from this ethanol trip...
There is absolutely no reason for you to be so thrilled about E85 unless you have something on your own agenda. You're talking about adding 10 points of octane as if it instantly adds 50 horsepower and makes a vehicle that much "cooler." You're posting falsified information and trying to get people to sign up for newsletters, come on - come out of the closest and just tell us what you're supposed to be getting out of this.
Maybe I'm just one of these OPEC corporate execs and I'll forgive you for your derogatory comments on our people and double whatever those stupid grain pushers are giving you to change your mind. You sound the like the type that's easily swayed...
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Posted: 06/11/08 08:12 PM
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In this part of the country when you call someone a liar you had better have some PROOF! I didn't quite catch what you said I lied about. Ethanol has more than just a higher octane number, the cooling effects and slow burn habit makes this the best fuel for high performance, but you don't know that because you have not done your homework!
Start with some basics like going to some internet sites that may start to lay it out for you.
Department of Energy Department of Transportation
National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition e85fuel.com Some ethanol projects e85carbs.com
This is the new / old RENEWABLE high performance fuel that will blow everything else off the road PERIOD!
Go ahead and play with your Saudie Soda, the tail lights your looking at is a e85 powerd car that just blew your doors off!
God Bless The American Farmer! chris
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GibTG
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Posted: 06/11/08 09:54 PM
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Wow, you cannot help yourself can you...
As quick as I criticize you for pushing your E85 garbage on us you are right back at it, spamming your websites again...
Can you make a post without it being centered around how spectacular E85 is? The way you're trying to portray it is that it will literally save not only performance enthusiasts but average consumers across the world, the only way you can post this garbage is if you have something in it for you.
It's amazing you think this is such a newsflash. Otto was using alcohol when he "invented" the four-cycle engine in the 1870's and I'm sure it's been known for more than a century that alcohol would make more outright power than gasoline. It's just not practical to use three times as much fuel volume when the power supplied by petroleum based fuels is plenty for just about any OE car imaginable.
As someone else correctly stated, grain alcohol is a quick-fix at best that cannot be a long-term solution, but I don't expect you to get that through your thick skull.
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Posted: 07/25/08 08:42 AM
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I can't understand why so much "hatin'" on ethanol.
It is an excellent racing fuel for sportsmen competition and street/strip use. We should all be in favor of its increased "street" availability across the U.S.A. (unless our paychecks come from pushing hyper-expensive leaded race gas).
The international run-up in food prices is more the fault of increased diesel prices than of ethanol.The big driver of diesel costs are China, India, and the reduction in oil-to-diesel yield inherent to ultra-low-sulphur diesel (required by current U.S. EPA standards).
Certaintly corn-based ethanol is a transitional fuel to emerging switchgrass and biomass ethanol technologies.
[Blanket ethanol haters such as Rush Limbaugh may be smart guys about politics, but they don't know JACK about racing, hot rodding or alternative energy]
Also emerging is "on-demand" ethanol boosting.
Using ethanol or E85 only during the 3%-5% of the time when peak octane is actually necessary (and lousy, cheapo low-octane gasoline the rest of the time) will stretch the supply of both fuels and will allow for massive increases in the "power density" of engines (more horsepower and torque per pound of engine). See www.ethanolboost.com
It's not by accident that alcohol fuels dominate American open-wheel racing. NASCAR would be an alcohol fuel league overnight if such fuels were legal. It's also not an accident that E85 was the fuel of choice of the top competitors in the 2007 Dynomax "Power-to-the-Wheels" competition. In high performance applications, alcohol has many profound advantages to ordinary gasolines, and even some advantages over exotic, aromatic-based "gasolines", such as were common in Formula One during the "turbo" era.
Certainly supply issues, hydroscopic properties and lack of low-temperature volatility have limited ethanol (and methanol) in the past as a general use fuel. But technology marches on and "on-demand" alcohol technology looks to make it possible to have the best of both worlds.
Broadsides against any alcohol merely serve to delay this revolution.
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Posted: 07/25/08 04:47 PM
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There is a plant in Indiana that now takes the corn to the ethanol plant and takes the starch out then they take it next door and take the corn oil out then they give it to the hog farmers and let them use the rest, protien and vitamins. Once you take the starch out of the corn that is just the beginning. Most people don't know how the ethanol cycle takes place. If I were just growing corn to go to a ethanol plant and that was it - these guys would be right about it not being efficent. When my corn goes to the ethanol plant that is not the end it is just the beginning. They are taking some of the oil now and making bio-diesel to run are tractors. I don't care where it goes as long as Americans get it and we prosper. Don't worry when things get bad and the rest of the world doesn't have any food - we got your back America! chris
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Posted: 08/20/08 04:41 PM
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yea i agree but the green people are worried about the blue balled bearded earthworm's habitat and this dont provide a answer
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Posted: 08/30/08 09:39 AM
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The BBB earthworm has been a concern for a long time. When I heard of the declining numbers - I felt horrible. Their are several animals that I feel a certain amount of responsibuility too - the bearded clam and the urban split tail bar fox are also on my watch list. These should not go unoticed and need to be watched, or brought home and studied. Thank you my fellow green peace brother - chris
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