when do you need and anti-ballooning torque converter?  I hear if you plan to make over 500hp and/or run nitrous then you need a converter.  well what if you plan to make 5-600 horsepower naturally aspirated and then add twin turbos and nos.  so when you hit the nos you may be putting out 800-900hp.  easy question seems like i would need the plate but i have a 1991 700-r4.  which requires the lockout, and i cannot find a converter with a lockout and anti-balloon.  any input would be welcome.  thanks  

As far as I know anti-ballooning plates are for applications where there will be a very large 'sudden' force applied to the converter. Such as hard launches with a trans-brake or heavy hits of nitrous. But there is something else that needs to be addressed before you can even consider if you need this or not...

Putting 500 horsepower to a stock TH700R4 will probably break it, let alone 800! If you really do intend on making that kind of power it will be with a built Powerglide or Th400, thus lockout problem is completely eliminated as well because there's no way you could a converter designed to handle that kind of power also have 'lockout.'

leviakashock,

I can tell you have a lot of pride about your projects but I can see you're awfully raw as well. Talking about 800-900 horsepower is easy to do, actually doing it is another story. I just want you to realize how difficult that is before you're in over your head and before some others generate an negative opinion of your projects...  

you think that 8-900 horsepower is that difficult with nos.  im talking about during the shot not naturally aspirated.  i never said i am the most knowledgeable guy on here that is why im on here.  no body knows everything there is always someone better and/or smarter.  i could be talking about a 250 shot of nos that takes the car down to 550 hp naturally aspirated, what is so difficult about that.  thanks for your input and i appreciate the way you helped me with my last question but i don't need any negativity from anyone.  i didn't realize that was what these forums were about.  i have a budget of fifteen thousand dollars with this camaro and i don't see any reason why i cannot reach my goal with that budget.  it won't be toady and probably not this year but maybe '09 and definitely by the end of 2010 i will have this project complete.  and nobody said that i was talking about a STOCK 700r4 either i just have no intention of removing any of the stock power train. i am keeping the tbi and the 305 and the trans.  i will upgrade all the guts but the package will remain.  i plan to stroke the 305 to 335ci and i will use all forged rotating assembly and i will run a roller cam and twin turbo setup probably blowing about 10 p.s.i. each and i will add a nos setup.  so if you can't see that putting out 8-900hp then maybe i will have to contact you when it is done so we can hook up.  because i don't see any reason why it can't and my entire family has been mechanics for about 50 years. so Ive got a lot of experienced people to turn to.  sorry for ranting i just don't understand all the negativity from people on here.  

So much for taking my advice...

Sorry to say it but you are clueless. 800 Horsepower with a twin-turbo stroker 305 with a TBI? What a joke.

Have you ever even had an engine dyno'ed? There's a very good chance your estimated 550 horse engine would really be a 400 horsepower engine, that's making a big assumption, that you will even get this thing built.

I'm done giving advice on this pipe dream...  

i don't know what your intentions are or if you are just an a s shole everyday but you have succeeded in running me off of this forum. i started posting like two days ago to learn from the people on here and all i have noticed is a bunch of dicks so fu ck you very much.

later.

oh and if you ever get into mma please give ma a call because i would like to be the first one to whoop your ass  

oh and just to let you know i have done nothing to the rotating assembly right now i added a very mild cam,  added 1.6 roller rockers rebuilt the heads put on shorty style headers and a 3 inch cat back and rebuilt the tbi rebuilt the ignition system, put  a 1 inch throttle body spacer and a tornado intake "thing" and i am making 320 hp right now.  so if i add some nice fast burn heads or something and get a good set of springs add the hydrolic roller cam and twin turbos why wouldn't that add 200hp on the stroked motor.  i think maybe your are just too full of yourself to realize that you might not be right.  

I have probably done you a favor because there's much better places to put $15,000 into than a twin turbo 305 build. But I said I was done here; don't want to be more hypocritical than I already am...

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I don't think I even know what "mma" is.  

Alright, you've officially sucked me back into this topic, I just can't resist...

Doing a cam swap and putting on roller rockers is a lot different than fabbing a twin turbo setup. And making a twin turbo engine live with nitrous is not an easy feat. It's a feat that very few will even attempt because of the risk involved. It's a feat that isn't very sensible to attempt because the power can be had by other means that will actually give rewards rather than turning aluminum and cast iron  into confetti.

I highly doubt that your engine is dyno proven at 320 horsepower, and I can say you're going to find a limiting factor with a 305. The horsepower isn't just going to keep climbing to 800-900. That induction system will be far too restrictive. Fast-burn heads? 800 horsepower? Nope! How much nitrous do you plan on using? I guess if you wanted to go into a dyno cell and hit 800 horsepower you could by stuffing in enough oxygen but you will have a boat anchor left and that's it.

Hydraulic roller cam? Everything you're saying is making less and less sense...  

you will never get those numbers out of a 305,im not a negative person and have built some strong 305's.your lucky if you get 400hp with the factory injection and this can be done without spray,but your looking at many long nights putting in work on a good set of cylinder haeds.factory vortec heads are a great starting point.with some port matching and some minor bowl work you could get 350,but any thing more you will take away from the streetability of these engines when they are in good form,the only reason to do this would be to keep a car numbers matching and if thats the case you wouldnt wont to risk blowing up your engine by trying to make that kind ow power.yes there are forged rotating assemblies but no factory 305 block would ever be able to support that amout of load.so if your trying to keep numbers matching just build a strong street engine.if your going for king of the street build a blown 434 small block. just an idea.  

I have actually wondered about that.  Whether or mot the block would be able to handle the power.  But i have seen in magazines and on the net.  305's with 500-500hp.  so i was thinking maybe i could push it a little farther.  and if/when i blow it up, my uncle has about (no exaggeration)200 350 blocks in the yard at his place so i figure i will just pull the 305 block and switch everything over to the 350.  I plan to put 350 heads on the 305 so i will even have a good set of heads.  I have thought about going to the 400 but i have heard too negatives about the 400 (!. you can't find them anywhere because they are so popular. and 2.  well i can't remember what 2 was but there was a second thing that somebody told me.)  thanks for your input man i appreciate it.  

that was supposed to say 500-550hp  

Boy, you're really changing your story! You aren't going to try to prove me wrong anymore?

It's wonderful that you're realizing the limitations of a 305 but you just sounded so adamant about building that 800-900 horsepower 335 stroker...  

No, actually, @ss hole! I asked a figurative question and you responded in a disrespectful way and got me all pissed off so i just totally forgot about what my original point was. (why don't you go back and read the original question that i posted d i ck).  Besides that i haven't changed anything, i just was having a conversation with another gentleman who knows how to express a difference in opinion without being disrespectful to others.

I have absolutely no tolerance for disrespect.  I put 4 years into the army and i am an accomplished martial artist, oh and on top of that my parents taught me a little about respect while i was growing up.  I think you should try at least one of the three things i just mentioned.  I would bet money that if you couldn't hide behind this computer your demeanor would change.  you might disrespect me once, but it would only be once.

and just so i don't hear any retarded comments about how i am not showing respect in this post.  You deserve none, not from me, the first time we communicated i was totally respectful and submissive to you and i acknowledged the fact that you were more knowledgeable then me in this subject  then where your communication went from there destroyed any respect you would be getting from me.  send me a picture of you so i will know if i ever see you on the street.  

You have a strange interpretation of "respectful" posting...

I welcomed your first few posts on this board and gave my opinion, you later showed that my opinion meant nothing to you. I said that 800 horsepower isn't a walk in the park and told me that it was! Alright, whatever you say mixed-martial artist star and army corporal! I am no longer going to give my advice when it is going to go in one ear and out the other. Should I probably shut up then, of course! do I want to? Nope!...

I must be vindictive because I'm not a soldier or a martial artist, I guess college students are just evil!

And even if you are a soldier and a martial artist these two 'professions' obviously haven't benefited you much. I don't think someone that valued respect that much would address me the way you do regardless of if they disagree with you or not, or if they are just trying to get under your skin. All of that intensive training just must not have taught you how to control your temper...  

This is pretty impressive though...

Levi Heaton